QCM Epoxy

skidesmond · Post by **skidesmond** » Mon May 09, 2011 12:57 pm

I received a letter today from QCM stating they are moving away from the epoxy business. From QCM, "Greg Ankofski, a former QCM employee will continue to be involved with that business".... The letter gives Gregs' cell phone number, (503) 680-3132.

Dr. Delam · Post by **Dr. Delam** » Mon May 09, 2011 1:04 pm

Did they provide any other info? Are they still shipping stuff now? Maybe some closeouts?

I really did not want to have to change epoxy.

skidesmond · Post by **skidesmond** » Mon May 09, 2011 1:18 pm

It says they are focusing on the textile industry and environmentally friendly inks. They are looking for someone to continue to produce their epoxy/hardeners and they do have a short term supply.

I've never used any other epoxies.....

twizzstyle · Post by **twizzstyle** » Mon May 09, 2011 3:12 pm

I got the letter too

Major bummer, they're local to me so I don't have to deal with shipping, I can just pick the epoxy up.

My main worry is that QCM is very good about small orders, and selling to us, the hobbyists. I worry that a new company might not be as willing to sell small orders, or deal with non-commercial business. Fingers-crossed, this might put a huge damper on this hobby (yes, there are other epoxy options, but their's are proven)

Sherpa Burns · Post by **Sherpa Burns** » Mon May 09, 2011 3:30 pm

Is anyone using Entropy? I have not tried them, but it sounds like they have a good product. Last I heard they required large orders which would really be a bummer for me since I am not doing this commercially.

twizzstyle · Post by **twizzstyle** » Mon May 09, 2011 3:41 pm

Sherpa Burns wrote:Is anyone using Entropy? I have not tried them, but it sounds like they have a good product. Last I heard they required large orders which would really be a bummer for me since I am not doing this commercially.

It looks like they're back to small quantities again, but it's not cheap. I still want to try it out.

http://www.entropyresins.com/products/super-sap-1001000

Sherpa Burns · Post by **Sherpa Burns** » Mon May 09, 2011 3:53 pm

Just called to see if I could buy up what they have and whoever answered was not friendly. I'm always amazed when someone is ungrateful and not willing to help when I am wanting to give them money.

On another note, I checked with Entropy and is looks like the ideal product for us is their SuperSap CPM (compression + heat), but we have to buy 5 gallons at a time.

You can get smaller quantities of there 100/1000 system, but I would want to see how tough that stuff really is. The data sheet shows room cure at 7 days......

skidesmond · Post by **skidesmond** » Mon May 09, 2011 4:40 pm

You called QCM? They've always been very friendly and helpful. I was going to order some resin this week too. Wonder if they've had a shake-up at the company .... setting people on edge. We just had one, sucks. Anyhow, I've been wanting to try Entropy also but 5 gallons at this point is too much for me.

MontuckyMadman · Post by **MontuckyMadman** » Mon May 09, 2011 4:48 pm

Entropy has a few small kits of the heat cure stuff. They had 24 kits 6 months ago. Call and ask for desi, but anyone can help.
Works great, very tough and stiff and does not soften or loose camber at all basically.
It still gives off toxic fumes when it heat cures but not until then and doesn't irritate your skin and is very easy to clean up with denatured alcohol.

SHIF · Post by **SHIF** » Mon May 09, 2011 6:38 pm

I've always used QCM and that letter really bummed me out. Oh well, I've been curious to try others and now I have no excuses.
Resin Research epoxy looks interesting, anybody care to comment on their products? How well does their epoxy handle the cold temps, do your skis stay together, physically not skiing technique?

Brazen · Post by **Brazen** » Mon May 09, 2011 7:00 pm

Dam. Me too. I was just sick when I got this letter I was literally placing an order this week. Blah.

threeninethree · Post by **threeninethree** » Mon May 09, 2011 7:17 pm

I used the entropy supersap 100/1000 w/ top and bottom heat on my last pair. I was too late in the season to test them, though I did flex the shit out of them, and no noticeable problems.

Desi from Entropy posted a while back concerning the removal of their heated resin from small quantity availability.

viewtopic.php?t=2375&start=30

sammer · Post by **sammer** » Mon May 09, 2011 7:31 pm

I'd better order some quick as I still have 1/2 gallon of hardener.
2 gallons of epoxy getting ordered tomorrow I guess.
I never got a letter

So thanks for the heads up.
Bummer though, I really liked the service.

sam

Dr. Delam · Post by **Dr. Delam** » Mon May 09, 2011 10:22 pm

I got the letter today as well. Hopefully someone will take over production for them. In the mean time, I am going to order what I can.

chrismp · Post by **chrismp** » Tue May 10, 2011 1:06 am

sicomin has a wide range of epoxies that work really well and aren't that expensive. i'm using their SR8500 / SZ8525 heat curing combo and i love it! i've ordered some of the entropy super sap cpm stuff as my next batch though.

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