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Carpenter
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Soy Oil

Post by Carpenter »

Hello~ I just had a question about epoxy resin.Is soy oil based epoxy just as good as the other stuff? I was sitting in a clinic the other day and my rep told me that thier company uses soy oil based epoxy because it's a lot healthier and just as strong.Has anyone out there used this epoxy personally?Any and all information is greatly appreciated.Also,If you know where to get some,please let me know.Gracias~ :D
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Post by G-man »

Hi Carpenter,

I'm quite interested in a soy based epoxy. I hadn't heard of it until you posted. I did a search (as I'm sure you did also, so we probably came up with similar results), and although I found some R & D info on it, I didn't find a supplier. Maybe I didn't ask google the right question. There's a lot of soy based stuff out there that I didn't know about. I'll keep working at finding a source for resin. Is there any chance of gettting ahold of your rep friend again and finding out where his company gets their resin?

G-man
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Post by Carpenter »

G-Man
Thanks for getting back to me.As for getting ahold of my rep and asking where his company gets it from might be a little tougher than I think.Since they're a major snowboard manufacturer I dont think they'll "spill the beans" as to where I can lay my hands on some.I did go to thier home page and found out that the soy oil based stuff they use is called "low VOC(volitile organic compound) epoxy resin".I tried to Google it and cant find a supplier.I'll keep trying.This company also has an awsome design on boards as well as skis.They use "Magne-Traction" on a few of thier boards and now have tapped into the ski market with the release of N.A.S.(narrow ass snowboards)http://www.lib-tech.com/subHype/nas/060 ... _small.pdf

Let me know if you find more on this epoxy resin they use,please.
Gracias~ :D
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Post by Jordan »

mervin uses a special epoxy developed by ______ (cant remember the dudes name), as far as i can remember its a 1:3 ratio and I dont think it is commercialy available.
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Post by Carpenter »

Jordan wrote:mervin uses a special epoxy developed by ______ (cant remember the dudes name as far as i can remember its a 1:3 ratio and I dont think it is commercialy available).
Jordan
You're right,I dont think it's commercially available and the guys name is "Bob".I did call the company today and asked my in-house rep if he knew anything about it and he told me its a more or less a 2 part resin and has a pot life of 7mins or so.He did state that "Bob" sold his resin to other companies that deal with the surfing industry.So there is hope yet~
I'll keep searching and post when and what I can
8)
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I found this:
Unsaturated triglyceride oils such as soybean, crambe, linseed and castor oil constitute one major class of renewable resources. The main composition of these oils is saturated and unsaturated fatty acids. Besides food source, they also have wide industrial application. Directly using these fatty acids or their derivatives from some chemical modification, typical applications are in painting, coating, varnishes, cosmetics and polymer industry. This renewable triglyceride oil can be polymerized to form elastomeric network and represent alternative material resources to petrochemical based resin. Among the renewable triglyceride oils, soybean oil is attracting more and more attention for industrial application because it is readily available for large amount production.
The largest category of industrial soybean oil use is in plastics and resins. Epoxidized Soybean Oil (ESO) is mainly used as plasticizer or stabilizer to modify the properties of plastic resins such as thermoplastic Polyvinyl Chloride (PVC). ESO can be used as a reactive modifier and diluents of the epoxy resin system. ESO also shows potential use as an efficient toughener when big particle second phase rubber is formed for epoxy application...


from: http://www.pathnet.org/si.asp?id=1082
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Post by endre »

Nice find davide..
So what does that really mean? That the epoxy itself can not really be made from soybean oil, it is used as a reactive modifyer (additive)?

In that case we are just as far..
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Post by davide »

In 2004 Ashland Chemical Co. Composite Polymers Div. (Columbus, Ohio, U.S.A.) was making soy-based thermoset polyester resin called Envirez 5000: it contains 25% weight soy oil.
See here:
http://www.netcomposites.com/news.asp?946
http://www.compositesworld.com/ct/issue ... mber/661/1
and many more...



More linseed, rapeseed oil-based resin (in EU):
http://www.tech.plym.ac.uk/sme/mats324/ ... NResin.htm

Too much stuff to look for...
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Post by alloyguitar »

did anybody get anywhere with this?

I'm looking for an eco-friendly alternative and this may be it, but google was no help.
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