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Red Balau, Batu

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 1:24 pm
by Dr. Delam
I found some decking material called Red Balau or sometimes known as Batu that I have used successfully for sidewalls. It has a decent janka hardness at 2100 lbs., has a straight and tight grain, and looks purty. I made 2 pair of skis last year with it and the sidewalls still look as they day I built them.

For any Reno-Tahoe builders that are interested I found it at Mastercraft Hardwoods in Reno. They have it in stock and you can pick your pieces.

I wasted a lot of time trying to find some Massaranduba or Ipe but couldn't find anyone who would actually return a phone call, email, or give me a quote for shipping for just 3 sticks of lumber. Unless you are ordering at least 1000 square feet of the stuff they won't give you the time of day.

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 6:06 pm
by vinman
worthless without pics! ; )

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 10:28 pm
by tufty
If you want ipe, you probably want to talk to people who install decking professionally, rather than wood merchants. I scored a few planks from a friend who was installing some at work...

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:04 am
by Dr. Delam
tufty wrote:If you want ipe, you probably want to talk to people who install decking professionally, rather than wood merchants. I scored a few planks from a friend who was installing some at work...
I agree. Contractors are a good source of scoring free wood. Often what is garbage to them is useful to us as many of us are doing single core laminations with skinny rips. The pieces of Batu that I used in some skis last season were all free leftovers from a job site that I was working at.

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Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 3:22 am
by vinman
I meant the skis....

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 1:45 am
by Dr. Delam
Alright, two pair that are done and one core for a pair of skis ready to go except for the graphics that I have been slacking on all summer.

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Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:48 pm
by skidesmond
I lost my Ipe supplier, retired. I should have enough for this season. But I guess I should shop for another supplier or different hardwood for sidewalls.

Nice skis!

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 6:15 am
by skimann20
skidesmond wrote:I lost my Ipe supplier, retired. I should have enough for this season. But I guess I should shop for another supplier or different hardwood for sidewalls.

Nice skis!
Plenty of places in Boston. Let me know if you want some. I'd at least save you the drive into the city... Is the woodery closer for you, they have it?

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 6:42 am
by skidesmond
skimann20 wrote:
skidesmond wrote:I lost my Ipe supplier, retired. I should have enough for this season. But I guess I should shop for another supplier or different hardwood for sidewalls.

Nice skis!
Plenty of places in Boston. Let me know if you want some. I'd at least save you the drive into the city... Is the woodery closer for you, they have it?
Thanks! I'll check out The Woodery. I've been very lazy this spring/summer about ski building,research, etc. I need to inventory the materials, figure what I need for the season. The owner of Amherst Wood Working announced he's retiring. The last 4-5 yrs of the slumping housing market hurt their business. They specialized in architectural moldings but also carried high quality hardwoods/plywood/deck material that the big box stores don't have. For grins I checked their website and it's still up. Maybe there's hope.

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:32 pm
by MadRussian
skimann20 wrote:
Plenty of places in Boston. Let me know if you want some. I'd at least save you the drive into the city... Is the woodery closer for you, they have it?
what is the going price for IPE? for now I have enough "scrap" from construction site had to dumpster dive for it lol but don't know any actual suppliers of the wood

What about other options for wood sidewalls? I read somewhere Garapa and tigerwood have similar characteristics as IPE. How about mahogany? It's also used on outdoor decking

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 6:04 am
by knightsofnii
how is this stuff holding up to impacts? Is it an actual hardwood or is it a composite?

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 4:29 am
by skidesmond
(reviewing some past posts...)

Doug are you asking about Ipe? If so, the wood is nearly indestructible and it's a hardwood not composite. It's almost 3 times harder than maple of oak. It's also heavy.

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 6:33 am
by skimann20
skidesmond wrote:(reviewing some past posts...)

Doug are you asking about Ipe? If so, the wood is nearly indestructible and it's a hardwood not composite. It's almost 3 times harder than maple of oak. It's also heavy.
ummm ridiculously heavy! ;-) what saw blade do you use to cut the flash? this stuff is crazy dense, can you make it through a side without changing a blade out?

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 11:14 am
by vinman
Check out the hitachi ja10 blades, carbide tipped jig saw blades. I made 11 pair this season, only used 1 jigsaw blade all season.

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 3:37 pm
by MadRussian
I build with IPE sidewalls. Didn't find it particularly hard to cut by tablesaw bandsaw or router.
Don't know if making any difference.... mine has been set for at least two years