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Hawley skis * now with layup video

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 8:42 pm
by *ARMADA*
This thread will be a place for my dad (wheezer) and i to post our general ski building progress. I guess its probably best to start with a short overview of what we have already done, and as we continue making skis we will update with words, pictures, and video.

Last year we built this wooden press:
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It bears most of the force with 9 2X6's on the top and bottom, connected by angle iron and threaded rod. At first i was skeptical about using a wooden press, as many of you are, and i believed it would not be sufficiently rigid. However, my dad kept reviewing the numbers and asured me that it would be strong enough. After an alarming but otherwise harmless catastophic blow out at the end of one of our hoses during a pressure test (sounded ~ to a gunshot), we were ready to test the press. Despite all of the creaking and settling the press retained its form up to something like 70 psi., above which we were unwilling to risk unnescessary damage.

Basically we followed the skibuilders tutorial for the actual ski construction (thanks for that by the way) and ended up with the skis pictured below. They were incredibly soft, utilizing a maple/poplar core and only 2 layers of fiberglass. They are pow skis, as should be readily apparent just by looking at them. The dimensions are 140-110-130 and 183 cm legnth.

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My dad's are on the left, mine are on the right.
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Of the four original skis, only two remain. These skis were made primarily for our trip to Utah. While at snowbird i broke a p12 heel piece and skied my dads skis while he rented or snowboarded. Here is a video from about the time when the binding broke: http://media.newschoolers.com/uploads/m ... tah056.mpg

I broke one of my dads skis just ahead of the binding on a lame cork 7 attempt off a booter slightly out of bounds near Brighton's Millicent lift. Here is a video of that: http://media.newschoolers.com/uploads/m ... tah107.mpg

As a result i ended up skiing one of my skis and one of my dads.
Then the first ski that we made (the one of mine in which the core is not even remotely centered) fractured slightly at the end of the trip due to not being flame treated and a general lack of stiffness. I am left with my more solidly constructed ski mount bindingless on my wall.

If anyone is interested here is the season edit i made of my friends and i last year: www.jibtheshit.com/itsCATseason.mpg

Now fast forward to the present

Currently i am in the process of building a pair of skis entirely without edges. These will serve as urban/backyard skis and also will be a test bed for the park skis i am creating, as they are the same dimensions. They will have no edges mostly to decrease the vandalism aspect of urban. I will use four layers of glass in each ski with the hopes of achieving a normally stiff ski as opposed to the big mountain skis of last year ;)
Unfortunately my liscence for autodesk has expired so i cannot post cad shots. Currently i am in the template/ core blank phase. I am pleased to say that we now have a planer so i wont have to deal with the shitty profiling table i made anymore. I believe they will be 105-75-105 and 183 cm in legnth. I will update with pictures soon.

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 11:20 am
by littleKam
nice edit! do those skis get mistaken for fujis?

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 7:50 pm
by *ARMADA*
here is a video of pressing one of the urban skis. they are all done now except for the graphics which will be hand drawn by a friend. they are 115-80-115 and 183 cm. The core is maple with no divisions ( i was lazy) p-tex sidewalls, and as i think i mentioned above the edge only wraps around the tip and tail leaving straight p-tex underfoot for urban jibbing goodness.

http://media.newschoolers.com/uploads/m ... ldcat1.wmv

Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 5:40 pm
by broskier
You will definitely notice the loss of friction without the steel edges underfoot (at least we did on the pair we built), they are buttery smooth for jibbing. So you just have edges around the tip & tail? It will be interesting to see how they hold up with respect to durability.
nice work...

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 12:57 am
by Greg
Great video. That is pretty much exactly what it looks like when I am pressing. Especially the "waddling" you have to do to load the mold and ski into the press! :)

Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 11:47 pm
by *ARMADA*
Here is a video of some urban railery: http://media.newschoolers.com/uploads/m ... bancat.wmv

Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 11:49 pm
by *ARMADA*
and the finished skis:

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Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 1:02 pm
by BigG
Great looking skis.

How did you make the graphics?

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 7:13 pm
by *ARMADA*
my friend drew them with sharpie

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 7:36 am
by hafte
So it was done on top? I've had sharpie ink bleed/run when hit by epoxy.


Hafte

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 3:44 pm
by *ARMADA*
the sharpie was put on top of the topsheet after layup. no contact with epoxy.

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 5:12 pm
by Chicagoskier11
I put sharpie on my racing skis and it wore off a lot on the platic tips (atomic beta somethings) and just a little on the topsheet. You might want to consider a way to protect your graphics. But then again... you could always just go over them a second time.

Nice looking skis