horizontal veneer/two mold process

[jono]

I fondled some afterbangs the other day and I am intrigued by the materials.
I read the thread viewtopic.php?t=2859 and have contacted Ryan at http://www.roarockit.com/ they only offer thick veneer in 48" lengths. I think their veneers will work.
I am curious if anyone has tried using a 2 step process to make skis with 2 "natural" cambers?
In step one I want to press full length veneers, carbon stringers, one layer of fiberglass and the bases and edges/vds with one camber profile.
Then in step two i want to press the bottom of the skis with the tapered veneers, carbon stringers, fiberglass and thin veneer topsheet in a mold that has the same tip and tail profile but a slightly higher camber in the mid section.
I am thinking that this process will provide the skis with more pop and good powder performance because the mid section will be in tension and the tips and tails will be more relaxed. I like the idea that this tension will be intrinsic to the top veneer layers and not just from the fiberglass. I think that the skis will go between the two natural cambers when they are weighted and unweighted. When pushed beyond these two steps i think the skis will flex like regular skis.
Has anyone toyed with using 2 mold/camber process like this?
Sorry if there is already a thread on this.
Does anyone know of a good source for 2mm maple veneer that is longer than 48"?

[a.badner]

well i havent carved the camber into the core, but i did lay up the ski out of veneers. performance was really good the ski worked great, BUT it ended to soon with a dealmination. it looks like line uses that thick rubber in between the tip+tail for bonding purposes.

the biggest problem i saw with the veneer lay up was that even when the two pieces of wood are bonded, they still act/behave as if the were separated. Whilst skiing, i was doing a nose butter and the top veneer which was being compressed decided to snap(mind i say this was before delamination but i kept on riding with the skis after doing a quick repress with a epoxy fix)

did not work out as well as i planned, but profiling cores was really easy, making it an upside.

ALSO, the veneers at rockorit are insanely expensive. if you have your own band saw you can actually cut your own veneers if your being really careful.

[skidesmond]

Check out www.certainlywood.com. They have thick veneer (1/16 and other sizes) http://www.certainlywood.com/woodmenu2.cfm?p=7

The 2 step process sounds interesting but not necessary to get pop. I did a ski w/ veneers. Came out great except for the wood base.

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[strangesnowboarding]

this is def a topic i am interested in and that i have been thinking about for awhile. my buddy skied on the afterbangs all season and ended up breaking them pretty severely jumping at the resort. i got to look at the aftermath and feel sure that water penetration into the layup caused the weak spots. just like the water damage that skateboards get.

somehow inserting a sidewall would make this more feasible.
we are going to be building skate decks all summer so hopefully i can throw in a couple of snowboards with similar construction and materials.

[Drew]

http://www.bamboohardwoods.com/items.as ... EET_VENEER
These guys have thick veneers. I ordered some of the 1/40 for topsheets a few days ago.