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Pid Controler wiring and tuning

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 7:46 pm
by bigal
looking for help!!!

I`m wondering if there are others out there that have had a hard time wiring their heat blankets. I know nothing about electricity so that already isn`t a great start.

I purchase a 120 v 1080 watt heat blanket from MEI
- pid controler from auber instruments
- ssr
- 15 amp it2 fuse (i was told by an electrician that I only needed one fuse?)
- toggle switch

Basically I wired the black wire from the
- power outlet to the fuse (15amps).
- from the fuse to the pid controler
- i used a terminal strip to split this line and bring it from my terminal 1 on the pid to the T1 on the ssr.

I wired the white wire from the
- power outlet through a toggle switch
- from the toggle to terminal 2 on the pid
- I used the termian strip to bring this wire to on leg of the heat blanket.

The other leg of the heat blanket I wired to L1 on the ssr

I have to legs going from the pid to the ssr (neg to A2, pos to A1)


I understand if no one wants to deee code this. lol but if you read it and understand let me know what could have gone wrong.

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 9:36 pm
by doughboyshredder
does your pid have a relay output or a voltage output?

If it's a relay output you have to have a plug in transformer that you run through this relay to the ssr.
If it's a voltage output is the ssr the same voltage as the output?

Also T1 is the terminal for your output wire from the ssr. L1 is the terminal for the input wire, although reversing these like you did doesn't really matter since the ssr is just an open relay.

Re: Pid Controler wiring and tuning

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 4:19 am
by krp8128
bigal wrote:looking for help!!!

I`m wondering if there are others out there that have had a hard time wiring their heat blankets. I know nothing about electricity so that already isn`t a great start.

I purchase a 120 v 1080 watt heat blanket from MEI
- pid controler from auber instruments
- ssr
- 15 amp it2 fuse (i was told by an electrician that I only needed one fuse?)
- toggle switch

Basically I wired the black wire from the
- power outlet to the fuse (15amps).
- from the fuse to the pid controler
- i used a terminal strip to split this line and bring it from my terminal 1 on the pid to the T1 on the ssr.

I wired the white wire from the
- power outlet through a toggle switch
- from the toggle to terminal 2 on the pid
- I used the termian strip to bring this wire to on leg of the heat blanket.

The other leg of the heat blanket I wired to L1 on the ssr

I have to legs going from the pid to the ssr (neg to A2, pos to A1)


I understand if no one wants to deee code this. lol but if you read it and understand let me know what could have gone wrong.
Well, first of, NEVER USE THE NEUTRAL (WHITE) WIRE ON A SWITCH. Hot should always be switched, for safety reasons, and is therefore proper practice.

What is the issue that you are having once it is all turned on?

Without knowing the specifics of your PID and SSR, I assume they are both from Auber, the PID has SSR (gives you a DC voltage, either on or off) and the SSR looks like:

Image

Here is basically what you need to do:

Black (hot)
  • 1. From outlet to switch
    2. Switch to fuse
    3. Fuse to terminal block
    4. Terminal block to PID
    5. Terminal block to T1 on SSR
    6. L1 on SSR to blanket


DC out from PID)
  • 1. + to A1 on SSR
    2. - to A2 on SSR

White (neutral)
  • 1. From outlet terminal block
    2. Terminal block to PID
    5. Terminal block to blanket
Really not that different from what you have done, so doughboy might have nailed the issue with his post. Just double check everything and let us know what problem you are having.


I'm not an electrician, so don;t blame me if something goes wrong. ;)

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 5:24 am
by bigal
Wow! you guys are fast. This is a great resource. I have been studying this forum for a couple years now. Finaly I have my press ready to go, and a small shop that I can work in. For the next couple of weeks I want to test different epoxy`s. I just need to get this heat blanket working, and hopefully I will have something usefull to share with you all in this kick ass forum!

my pid is a relay contact: 3A at 240VAC, SSR: 8vdc, 40 mA

My SSR is from tyco electronics
SSRT- 240A 25
90-280 VAC
25 amp 24-280 VAC

The pid powers up. the blanket doesn`t get hot. Tuning the pid seems straight forward enough because of the autotune function.

I`m wondering if there should be something done with the J1 output on the pid. this is set in the control output mode. there are 5 choices for this and wright now I have it set to
2: Relay J1 as alarm output; SSR Pid control output

Because it's a relay output I guess i have to have a plug in transformer?
Can I purchase this at any electronic store?

I will double check everything although it seems that I am still missing stuff.

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 5:29 am
by doughboyshredder
the issue is definitely that you aren't triggering voltage to the ssr.

So you need a plug in transformer matching your ssr voltage, so really almost any dc transformer will work. Even a phone charger transformer. Of the two wires coming from the transformer the one with the dashed line is positive. Wire it to the relay common and then a wire from relay normally open to the positive of the ssr. Wire the other wire from the transformer to the other side of the ssr, and you should be good to go.

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:44 am
by krp8128
any chance you have pdf instructions from the PID?

pdf instructions

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 4:10 am
by bigal
the pdf instructions are on auberins dot com
the forum won`t let me post the address. although they are really easy to find.

Re: pdf instructions

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 1:57 pm
by krp8128
bigal wrote:the pdf instructions are on auberins dot com
the forum won`t let me post the address. although they are really easy to find.
haha, i knew they were easy to find, just didn't notice the links this time around. What model do you have?