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Jibber
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Post by Jibber »

@ fa: Yes indeed it is inspired from the north young blood but the step will be different. Very small board for my girlfriend...

@ OAC & doughboyshredder: I will check the wires and post a photo :-) It would be very nice if I dont have to turn and readjust everything because I have nearly finished the machine...

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Cheers, Christoph 8)
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Post by doughboyshredder »

do you have in and out feed rollers? I think you will need them.
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Jibber wrote: @ OAC & doughboyshredder: I will check the wires and post a photo :-) It would be very nice if I dont have to turn and readjust everything because I have nearly finished the machine...
Remember, it's always something... :)

Good job! I really like the name! :D

Wonder when the "we" get the "4000 - series" out?
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Post by fa »

looking great!

feeding the sander from the backside is really very dangerous
DO NOT TRY IT
the motor i used can be changed from clockwise spinning to anticlockwise by swapping contacts

work safe and enjoy your new toy!
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There are 4 cables coming from the motor: blue, black, red and yellow. Then there are 4 pins to connect the cables:

1) blue and black
2) empty
3) empty
4) red and yellow

From the plug there is a red cable going to pin 1 and a white cable to pin 4. (+ yellow/green to ground)

Any idea how to connect so that the motor spins in the other direction.

Regards, Christoph
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This is the picture for the description in my last post.

The thing on top of the motor (which is probably a capacitor?) has 2 blue cables going into the motor.

I hope someone can help me...

Cheers, Christoph
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Post by Brazen »

It depends if there's a reversible motor in the machine, if there is...just switch red and white. If not? You may be hosed unless you want to dis-assemble the motor.
"86% of the time it works 100% of the time".
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Just pm dbs
sammer wrote: I'm still a tang on top guy.
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Post by doughboyshredder »

Brazen wrote:It depends if there's a reversible motor in the machine, if there is...just switch red and white. If not? You may be hosed unless you want to dis-assemble the motor.
No.

240v. Reversing L1 and L2 does nothing. With a 110v motor you would be correct.

Is there a nameplate on the motor? If so make sure it only says 220 and not 110/220. Pretty sure from the picture and wire description you posted, that it is a single voltage dual rotation motor. If I am correct you need to switch the black and the red. So you would end up with L1 (Line voltage 1) going to blue and red, and then L2 (the other Line voltage wire) going to black and yellow.

This page http://diggipdf.com/documents/s_10_wiring_diagrams/ has a standard wiring diagram for a single voltage dual rotation motor with the corresponding colors on the bottom of the second page.
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Post by OAC »

Now it looks more like a 3-phase motor "1-phase enabled"...?
Nameplate?
Where is the capacitor?
I don't know about your electrical system in Switzerland. There should be three(3) cables feedeing the motor, in a 1-phase system.

The swedish example:
In Sweden we have:
L = phase
N= zero (in a perfect system this is 0V and NOT ground) Always blue.
and ground (green/yellow)

Three phase motors up to approximately 0.75 kW can be converted to single-phase motors, the installation of a capacitor that is connected between two of the motor connections. 1-phase net then connected to one of these, and for the vacant connector. Direction changed by 1-phase net connected to the second capacitor connection.
The engine must be Δ-connected, 1-phase effect gets about 75% of three-phase power and starting torque is approximately 30% of the rated torque at the three phase.
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Post by Jibber »

The system in Switzerland is the same as in Sweden.

I know that the motor was mounted on a steam cleaner before. I will try to decipher the Nameplate. From the seller it got these informations: 220V, 1PS, 1425U/min

Cheers, Christoph
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Post by OAC »

Ok...
1PS = "1 Phase System"??? :-) (No idea)
If that's the case, I'm out of ideas.

But...
Another cool hack is, if you could disassemble it and turn the chassi (stator) 180°. And keep the axis (rotor) in position. :-)

Try PM idris he is the electrical wiz here.
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Post by doughboyshredder »

OAC wrote:Now it looks more like a 3-phase motor "1-phase enabled"...?
Nameplate?
Where is the capacitor?
I don't know about your electrical system in Switzerland. There should be three(3) cables feedeing the motor, in a 1-phase system.

The swedish example:
In Sweden we have:
L = phase
N= zero (in a perfect system this is 0V and NOT ground) Always blue.
and ground (green/yellow)
Single phase 240 is two Line Voltage wires and a ground.

Follow my instructions and you'll be fine.

btw, I am a licensed electrician and I work with motors regularly.
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Post by doughboyshredder »

OAC wrote:Now it looks more like a 3-phase motor "1-phase enabled"...?
Nameplate?
Where is the capacitor?
I don't know about your electrical system in Switzerland. There should be three(3) cables feedeing the motor, in a 1-phase system.

The swedish example:
In Sweden we have:
L = phase
N= zero (in a perfect system this is 0V and NOT ground) Always blue.
and ground (green/yellow)
Single phase 240 is two Line Voltage wires and a ground.

Follow my instructions and you'll be fine.

btw, I am a licensed electrician and I work with motors regularly.
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Post by OAC »

doughboyshredder wrote:
btw, I am a licensed electrician and I work with motors regularly.
Ok, ok... :) I leave it to you. (I did some research...;) )
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