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there's a new video from their factory. only place i could find it was on facebook...

https://www.facebook.com/video/video.ph ... 0720389083

in this video they claim to use a non-epoxy glueing system that's more eco-friendly...wonder what that could be.

Gotta be wood WELDING..... i didnt view the vid.

...not for the cores but the whole layup. they call in envirobond...supposed to be made of 60% renewable sources and production of the stuff produces zero co² emissions.

Found this by Dupont.... http://www2.dupont.com/Flooring_Adhesiv ... tdoor.html

hmm, flooring adhesives...but who knows, maybe this really is the stuff. although it could be that elan just made the name up for marketing. anyone call up dupont and ask them if it would be possible to use this for our purposes?
or maybe someone even has a sutherlands nearby and could make some tests?!

here's another link to the video, a couple of photos and a short write-up.

http://business.transworld.net/64602/fe ... 8071#ngtop

i'm still curious about what that envirobond could be...i guess i'll have to apply for a job at their factory to find out

aaand yet another recent video: http://vimeo.com/24935335

looks like they've ditched the i-beam presses and switched to smaller ones.

here's one more hint on what this envirobond could be: http://www.snowsports.org/blog/2011/04/ ... -day-2011/

if you scroll down to the interview with arbor snowboards president, he mentions the glue and states that it's some sort of bio-polyurethane...so maybe skidesmond is on the right path with using gorilla glue.

The majority of the room was full of machines, not people. How is that handmade?

Most people need tools to do a job, I would say those people are no different. I didnt see crazy snowboard building machines, just the required tools so people can build boards.

chrismp wrote:
looks like they've ditched the i-beam presses and switched to smaller ones.

Cool. Very lightweight press frames. Looks like they are partially relying on the aluminum bottom mold and thick wood top mold to avoid deflection. I would love to see those presses up close.

Elan has always been a top notch builder of snowboards.

Hexcel resin, not sure if that's still current. You have to use a gun to disperse it since its premixed. It has a quicker cycle time & cures at a much lower temp. Issue is that its still not as good as epoxy with adhesion, compression, flexural strengths.