333skis - Guy making skis out of a trailer

knightsofnii · Post by **knightsofnii** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:05 am

is it a mobile factory!?!?! dammit I was thinking of doing this!!!

KevyWevy · Post by **KevyWevy** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 9:28 am

i want to see a close up picture of how the bases turn out with the three holes in them.

MontuckyMadman · Post by **MontuckyMadman** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 12:13 pm

well, the holes a the tip and tail are cut off so its just one hole in the middle.

krp8128 · Post by **krp8128** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 4:36 pm

MontuckyMadman wrote:well, the holes a the tip and tail are cut off so its just one hole in the middle.

MM, could you link to where that info is? I read it as something different, and would like to re-read it before commenting.

MontuckyMadman · Post by **MontuckyMadman** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 11:40 pm

dude, I have no idea where I read that, I have read every forum post he has made in the last month. All over the place. The stuff at alpinzone is actually really informative. I thought he said he cut those parts off with the flash.

krp8128 · Post by **krp8128** » Sun Jun 21, 2009 5:00 am

Yeah, I went back and re-read the AZ and TGR thread. At TGR he has a post tht makes it sound like 2 are cut off in the flash.

doughboyshredder · Post by **doughboyshredder** » Mon Aug 24, 2009 9:26 am

I really like Michael. I like his idea. I like his attitude. But I am less than impressed with his layup and curing process.

These skis really are probably alright. Hell they may even ski great. But, there is no way that you can convince me that vacuum bagging a ski, then removing it from the air pump and curing it in the sun on camber blocks is providing a high quality product.

Cap construction with no internal sidewalls.

Cloth topsheet material, so no uv resistance.

vacuum bagged and then cured in the sun.

Plywood cores.

$333.00 sounds about right.

I wish him all the luck in the world, but the product that he is building is on the other end of the spectrum of what a lot of builders are trying to produce, and his pricing may be giving people the impression that semi custom and custom builders are charging too much, which is nonsense.

krp8128 · Post by **krp8128** » Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:09 am

doughboyshredder wrote: I wish him all the luck in the world, but the product that he is building is on the other end of the spectrum of what a lot of builders are trying to produce, and his pricing may be giving people the impression that semi custom and custom builders are charging too much, which is nonsense.

I stopped posting in the TGR thread mainly because of the attitude there that people have towards 333, and the fact that I made the mistake of voicing similar opinions, albeit not worded as well, very early on.

That reminds me, I need to post pics of my latest creation here, which I "sold" for $275 (guess I'm a sponsor now).

MontuckyMadman · Post by **MontuckyMadman** » Mon Aug 24, 2009 3:42 pm

I was really hoping he had a solar oven of some sort to really get the temp up. Most any epoxy needs to be near ~170 F right to get an effective strength cure?
I will be trading him for a pair and I will attempt to use them and see how they perform.

222 sounds closer to me and as you saw the ski in the vid is a 222 ski.

KevyWevy · Post by **KevyWevy** » Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:15 pm

im still confused about the alignment dowels. do they go through the base ptex?

krp8128 · Post by **krp8128** » Tue Aug 25, 2009 4:19 am

KevyWevy wrote:im still confused about the alignment dowels. do they go through the base ptex?

From what i recall, there are a total of 3. @ get cut off at thip and tail with the flash, and one does go through the base at the center.

Guess he's never seen double sided tape...

KevyWevy · Post by **KevyWevy** » Tue Aug 25, 2009 6:00 am

from the video it doesn't look like they get cut off in the flash, especially since there isn't much flash. there is never any good shot of the base.

i am still a huge fan of the sidecut jig. thinking of ways to make my own that would be self centering since his isn't.

doughboyshredder · Post by **doughboyshredder** » Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:51 pm

MontuckyMadman wrote:I was really hoping he had a solar oven of some sort to really get the temp up. Most any epoxy needs to be near ~170 F right to get an effective strength cure?
I will be trading him for a pair and I will attempt to use them and see how they perform.

222 sounds closer to me and as you saw the ski in the vid is a 222 ski.

I thought the only difference was price and warranty?

MontuckyMadman · Post by **MontuckyMadman** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:16 pm

Well you can add top sheet if you have that guy sublimate. He can put veneer on as well to help with uv.
Its topsheet and warranty.
His process is sick.

krp8128 · Post by **krp8128** » Sat Sep 05, 2009 1:33 pm

The TGR thread is getting a little interesting in its last few pages.

All I've got to say on the matter is I cranked out my last pair, some custom GS skis, in the last 3 weeks of August, and that was taking my time and simultaneously building a house and planning a 25th anniversary party for my parents. I would have had 2 pairs done, but the graphics (customer supplied) weren't done on time.

I'd expect a bit more from 333 when he dwells on his speedy tooling and 3-hr timing...

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