Through the thorns to the stars

MadRussian · Post by **MadRussian** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:02 pm

Did you saw this?

http://www.skibuilders.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4952

Akiwi · Post by **Akiwi** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:30 pm

If it does the job!!
Duct tape is the solution to many problems.
Or Cable ties.. Or WD40.

motoman · Post by **motoman** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:33 pm

MadRussian wrote:Did you saw this?

Yes, I did. That is good way to solve my problem but it was very hard to find such type of cutter in the store (22 degree). Also use of drum sanding bit is good decision. May be we will try it.
We tried to use floor sander but it is very hard to keep angle right...

motoman · Post by **motoman** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:42 pm

Akiwi wrote:If it does the job!!
Duct tape is the solution to many problems.
Or Cable ties.. Or WD40.

If you try to repair something with the help of insulating tape and all come to nothing than you use not enough insulating tape. Low of the universe))

Akiwi · Post by **Akiwi** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 10:28 pm

motoman · Post by **motoman** » Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:51 am

While we wait for the delivery of our materials to start working, we decided to experiment a bit.
The task was to use another type of epoxy which is usually used for manufacturing of boats.
Also we experimented with device that helps to make holes faster then our previous method.
We were brought some material from Germany that replaces ordinary fiberglass and the top sheet as well. The name of the company is Lamilux. The name of material is LAMISPORT X-TREME.
And we used rod bender this time instead of our hands.
The highlight is our binding inserts made by our own hands))
Here we go...
Our binding inserts

Metal plates made of Hardened steel

Our rod bender (we have to practice a bit to work with it) also we will try to use modified nippers.

As for LAMISPORT X-TREME. Probably you know about it.
They have two products. First is some king of rigid fiberglass. Looks like crisps. Probably they impregnate fiberglass with epoxy and apply prestress to it. Second material combines top sheet and the same rigid fiberglass. So, you use one layer of material instead of two. On the one hand useful, but the dark side is that you have to apply protective layer on the top afterwards. Sublimation is the best option for this material.
Here is picture of already sublimated material.

SHIF · Post by **SHIF** » Tue Nov 17, 2015 1:38 pm

Hey Motoman, that's a killer graphic. How did you create it?

-S

motoman · Post by **motoman** » Tue Nov 17, 2015 1:53 pm

SHIF wrote:Hey Motoman, that's a killer graphic. How did you create it?

-S

Sorry for that guys. I mean if we took somebody idea. We use it to check the quality of sublimation printing. We would like to see the depth of colors on that material.

Akiwi · Post by **Akiwi** » Tue Nov 17, 2015 2:43 pm

Those inserts look pretty.. er.. impressive. But didn't you get some inserts made for you?

SHIF · Post by **SHIF** » Tue Nov 17, 2015 3:13 pm

motoman wrote:
SHIF wrote:Hey Motoman, that's a killer graphic. How did you create it?

-S
Sorry for that guys. I mean if we took somebody idea. We use it to check the quality of sublimation printing. We would like to see the depth of colors on that material.

No you didn't take anyone's ideas on this graphic. I've seen similar, but not on skis or boards. I like what you've done here and want to do something similar. Did you use a program such as GIMP to create the artwork? Do tell..

-S

motoman · Post by **motoman** » Sat Nov 21, 2015 6:59 am

SHIF wrote:
motoman wrote:
SHIF wrote:Hey Motoman, that's a killer graphic. How did you create it?

-S
Sorry for that guys. I mean if we took somebody idea. We use it to check the quality of sublimation printing. We would like to see the depth of colors on that material.
No you didn't take anyone's ideas on this graphic. I've seen similar, but not on skis or boards. I like what you've done here and want to do something similar. Did you use a program such as GIMP to create the artwork? Do tell..

-S

We took this graphic from internet and did some changes. We used adobe illustrator and photoshop.

motoman · Post by **motoman** » Sat Nov 21, 2015 7:02 am

Akiwi wrote:Those inserts look pretty.. er.. impressive. But didn't you get some inserts made for you?

We have got them a bit later.
But before we bought some nuts for welding. And tried to make fallback in case if we will not get our binding inserts.

motoman · Post by **motoman** » Sun Nov 22, 2015 11:26 pm

Final result was unsatisfactory. After press everything looked good but when we began to cut out the shape of our snowboard upper layer of Lamisport delaminated.
The reason was epoxy resin. Actually its hardener.

Final conclusion was next:
- the use of epoxy for boats with hardener that makes epoxy unflexible after curing is not applicable (may be we will experiment with other hardeners a bit later)
- the use of templates for drilling holes simplifies work and decreases working time.
- the use of wire bender also makes work much easier but requires more practice.
Unfortunately we couldn't check lamisport material.
Also there are some pictures of hand made binding inserts installation.

Akiwi · Post by **Akiwi** » Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:46 am

Oh dear, that epoxy looks a mess.
Your cores look they coulaso do with a little more cleaning up. I think maybe your router bridge is perhaps too flexible, so if you push down it cuts deeper.

The home made inserts look respectable.. but did you weld the nuts onto the plate?? How did you attach them.
Hopefully not with a bit of double sided sticky tape ;-)

Good luck, and keep it up.

mammuth · Post by **mammuth** » Mon Nov 23, 2015 6:17 am

Looks like its cut out of these:
http://www.beetleconnection.de/product_ ... r-neu.html

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