Rivets to prevent Delam like K2

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You are only lightly passing the flame over things somewhat slowly though.. It should not scorch the material or make it shiny. No i haven't had sidewalls pop off due to flaming.
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just popped the next ski in the press. cut the carbon in half and put same top and bottom, made sure the triax was going the opposite directions and moved the propane heater about a foot further away. hope i get a camber ski out of this one
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I vote no on the rivets, unless you just love the board SO much you have to frankenstein it up. Work with your setup to avoid the delam.
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so i will be returning the rivets and not putting them in. thank you guys for talking me out of it.
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Woohoo! :)

As for your reverse camber problem, I'm stumped. Wait for the heat blanket and heat on the bottom.
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Post by Powforbreakfast. »

twizzstyle wrote:Yeah first thing's first - make it so it doesn't delam. You shouldn't need to do rivets, K2 does not do it to prevent delam, they do it cause it looks cool (that's subjective of course...)
I disagree! The K2 rivets were implemented shortly after prototypes of the first commercial PE hit the market. They served a structural function for about 18 months before k2 figured it out and introduced hydraulic boosters to their press and refined a few materials in the tip (because their factory twins aren't a full length core). Only after getting things right did they decide to keep it for the "cool" factor as you mentioned ;)

On another note, I have used rivets before and they worked well when I had delam problems back in the day. The cheapest and easiest method is to use a copper pin/washer and pound them together with a ball and peen hammer. This can be done by drilling holes in your finished ski wide enough for the pin to get through and then nailing the pin flat against a malleable washer. Here's an example:

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Post by ggardner90 »

i got the same washers as you did in the begging havent gotten around to returning them yet so glad to hear a vote of confidence in them atleast while learning. i really like the idea of boosters on the tip and tail sections. do you know how they attached them to the cat track. i really like how on3p does it kinda want to copy that. i got a new mold cnc'd that is 3x the camper i want because of the way i do my casset i can not really heat for the bottom so hopefully the extra camber in the mold should compensate


i guess we will just have to wait, mei dropped the ball and it is taking them 6weeks for me to get our blanket...guess its just life.
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Lame :( I ordered a blanket from MEI in late November and it was shipped out in 3 weeks as promised :(
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guess it is our fault for ordering a blanket over christmas break
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