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Nick's Sticks
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This past year I learned some important life lessons: Remodeling a home significantly decreases both my bank account as well as my free time. A new bike is more fun than cleaning up the shop. And joining a start-up takes a lot more energy than working at a well established company. All of these things put a major dent in my time for skibuilding.

To my chagrin, I discovered that last year’s skis were threatening to self-destruct at any moment and I was without a suitable ride for this winter. Immediate action was necessary. I dusted off the press, frantically gathered supplies, cranked up the AC/DC and got to ski building.

First off I needed an all-around area ski. I decided to keep it simple, traditinal sidecut, tip rocker, nothing fancy. I ended up going with

187cm
130-95-115
Bamboo cores
VDS above each edge
Triax glass
Silk graphics and clear top sheet

I intended to have a zero camber ski with tip rocker and a subtlety turned up tail. After pulling time out of the press I discovered they were more like a reverse camber ski. I think the combination of my rocker long low rocker profile and only having a heat blanket for the top of my press contributed the reverse camberification of the skis.

I really like the look of wood veneer topsheets but the GF brought back a mountain of silk from the middle east so I thought I’d give it a try.

It was super cold in the shop and I couldn’t wait to see how the bamboo and silk looked so they had to move into the living room.
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The rocker shot, you can see how much more tip rise there is than I intended, oh well. And a shot of them with an old pair.
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I haven't decided on what the final tip shape will be so for now I just rounded them off. Hitting the slopes is more important than getting the perfect shape right now. I'll polish them up soon enough.
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Post by twizzstyle »

Wow that silk looks amazing, it looks like it goes completely transparent? I bet those things will be a blast!
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Post by MontuckyMadman »

those look super awesome and I dont spread round the compliments.
is that crown/skibuilders clear topsheet?
really sweet.
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The top sheet is some clear PE from Tap plastics. Its smooth on one side and textured on the other. I scuff it up a bit before layup to give it a little more grabbing power. I've used it in a bunch of skis so far and it holds up pretty well. It defiantly isn't as durable as the commercial top sheets but at about $5 per pair of skis you can't go wrong. Plus it wets out totally clear.
"Powder days? Everyone loves powder days. You can ski powder days the rest of your life. I prefer ice, its faster." -Glen Plake
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Post by MontuckyMadman »

Thanks. did you buy that at the store? I dont see it online.
I would love to k now the specs on it and a product number so I can order it. All i see online for clear is acrylic and polycarbonate.
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I pick up the plastic for the topsheets in store. I just looked at their web page and didn’t see anything that looked like the stuff I get. They always have it in a display with some other HDPE sheets. They are $3.75/sheet. I cut one sheet lengthwise and then but the ends under the binding area. That way I only need one sheet per pair of skis, unless they are really wide.

I’ve also started using their HDPE cutoffs for most of my tip and tail spacers. If I remember correctly they carry some that is 1/8th in thick. I use a coarse belt sander to rough them up and bring them down to about 2.5mm.

I was able to make some turns as Alpi over the holidays. The conditions were predictably NW mediocre but the skis worked surprisingly well. I was prepared for lots of chattering and squirrelyness but they held a solid edge and had a lot of pop out of the turns. I think I may have gone a little overboard on the stiffness, especially for a soft snow ski. I’ll taper out the next pair a bit more. I can’t wait to get them out in the good stuff. You can do it Ullr.
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Post by MontuckyMadman »

Thanks that helps allot. If you go there soon and want to send some my way great. Otherwise i will just try and contact the seattle shop? - or another wa shop?
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sammer wrote: I'm still a tang on top guy.
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Post by twizzstyle »

Nick's Sticks wrote:
I was able to make some turns as Alpi over the holidays.
I'll have to keep my eyes open for you, I spend most of my time skiing at Alpy.

Opening day at Hyak today was a blast, even if the snow was crap. End of this week is looking promising!
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Post by Nick's Sticks »

I pulled a new pair out of the press after some awesome morning turns.

These guys come in at 182cm, 139-119-130, no camber and head banging rocker.
They have bamboo cores and sidewalls and silk graphics. After the last pair I decided to make them a little softer. I also remembered to flame treat the tip and tail spacers. I forgot to flame treat the last pair and experienced epic tip and tail delam.


Apologies for the crummy photos.
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I'm polishing them up right now and hope to take them out this weekend.
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Post by twizzstyle »

Rad! Almost a little 80s style! Did you get a chance to make it up to alpy last week? It was amazing.
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Post by sammer »

Nice
After seeing your last couple pair I decided to order some silk to dye and test.
Love the tip shape as well.
keep up the good work.


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Post by Nick's Sticks »

Amen!

It was amazing.
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Post by Brazen »

Those are really beautiful. Exceptional work...you and Huck are mavens in the "great eye" department!
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Post by Dr. Delam »

What are you using for tipfill? Looks kinda thick.
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