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by CFO
Mon Nov 16, 2009 12:48 pm
Forum: Ski/Snowboard Design and Layup
Topic: Running length vs effective edge - conversion
Replies: 45
Views: 26397

Whats up your arse, doughboy? you have your opinion, I have mine. Theres no need to get all worked up about it and get personal. My question is factual and it would help me a lot if someone actually knew the answer.
by CFO
Mon Nov 16, 2009 12:55 am
Forum: Ski/Snowboard Design and Layup
Topic: Running length vs effective edge - conversion
Replies: 45
Views: 26397

Hey Vinman, I completely missed the point that RL is measured when ski is flat. My calculations are actually based on that assumption and yes, RL and effective edge should be very similar. Yet, if you look at manufacturer's quoted RL and effective edge, there is a significant difference... This is w...
by CFO
Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:00 am
Forum: Ski/Snowboard Design and Layup
Topic: Running length vs effective edge - conversion
Replies: 45
Views: 26397

Rocker - maybe. Magnetraction just slows you down, but we are going off topic...

There has to be someone from the industry on the website who knows the difference in derivation of effective edge and running length...
by CFO
Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:54 pm
Forum: Ski/Snowboard Design and Layup
Topic: Running length vs effective edge - conversion
Replies: 45
Views: 26397

to doughboy: nope, you are talking running length. Effective edge is longer than running length. I am looking for a conversion to enable meaningful comparisons among different brand geometries.

to montuckymadman: you may have a point, but it is quite irrelevant to my question.
by CFO
Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:50 am
Forum: Ski/Snowboard Design and Layup
Topic: Running length vs effective edge - conversion
Replies: 45
Views: 26397

Good point. I think my question is as much about definition as it is about maths behind effective edge calculation. My logic stems from effective edge definitions found on the web, but obviously I am missing something..
by CFO
Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:15 pm
Forum: Ski/Snowboard Design and Layup
Topic: Running length vs effective edge - conversion
Replies: 45
Views: 26397

hey webboy... I am just looking for a simple circular symmetrical sidecut formula. From my experience, all these progressive sidecuts and stuff dont make much difference for an average rider.
by CFO
Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:09 pm
Forum: Ski/Snowboard Design and Layup
Topic: Running length vs effective edge - conversion
Replies: 45
Views: 26397

sure, follows both. Effective edge is what contacts the snow when you are turning...
by CFO
Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:11 pm
Forum: Ski/Snowboard Design and Layup
Topic: Running length vs effective edge - conversion
Replies: 45
Views: 26397

You are talking about effective edge. Running length is the distance along the ski length between the contact points. In a traditional ski its the distance between the widest part of the tip and the widest part of the tail.
by CFO
Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:29 am
Forum: Ski/Snowboard Design and Layup
Topic: Running length vs effective edge - conversion
Replies: 45
Views: 26397

conversion factors

anticipating some conversion factor discussion, there are a few floating around. such as 0.88 for skis and 0.96 for snowboards. However, I found these rules of thumb to be very unreliable...
by CFO
Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:19 am
Forum: Ski/Snowboard Design and Layup
Topic: Running length vs effective edge - conversion
Replies: 45
Views: 26397

Running length vs effective edge - conversion

Hey crew, Been pondering on how to convert effective edge data to running length and vise versa. The way I thought it should work is running length is basically the length of the segment of the circle used to derive the sidecut. In which case we get the sidecut radius and the running length, estimat...
by CFO
Sun Aug 23, 2009 3:15 am
Forum: Ski/Snowboard Design and Layup
Topic: Vacuum bagging AND pressing for cap construction?
Replies: 28
Views: 27755

Hey Madman,

Thanks for the explanation and the vid. It is actually clear enough. So I will look at silicone then. In terms of molding question, I meant that do I need to make a cambered mold, or would a flat one be good enough. In the end the press should press it to camber. I hope...
by CFO
Sat Aug 22, 2009 4:32 pm
Forum: Ski/Snowboard Design and Layup
Topic: Issues Going from Snocad to SolidWorks, Turbo Cad, Etc
Replies: 10
Views: 8120

yeah, SnoCad is based on vertices. If you go to tools, you can actually choose your vertex density. My laser cutting guys cannot use direct DXF exports, their machine stops every millisecond and shakes and rattles the workpiece. I tried converting the polylines to curves in CorelDraw, and it does a ...
by CFO
Sat Aug 22, 2009 4:20 pm
Forum: Ski/Snowboard Design and Layup
Topic: Vacuum bagging AND pressing for cap construction?
Replies: 28
Views: 27755

Thanks MontuckyMadman,

If you dont mind, I will pick you brain a little. To make a urethane mold, can I just use a laser cut template, or do I need to use a shaped ski?
by CFO
Fri Aug 21, 2009 2:05 pm
Forum: Ski/Snowboard Design and Layup
Topic: Vacuum bagging AND pressing for cap construction?
Replies: 28
Views: 27755

Cap mold

Hey guys, I have been looking at the forum for a while now. One question still bugs me and I cannot find an answer. Going back to twizzstyle's post, does enyone know how exactly a cap cassette like WhiteCrystal guys are using would work in a press? I mean, if it is rubber, how would it exert pressur...